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‘Drilling Deep’: Sticking a stake into the heart of California’s AB5 … so far 

AB5 in California created the potential for chaos among independent owner-operators earlier this year when the law took effect. But attorney Bob Roginson led the fight against it on behalf of the California Trucking Association, and so far, he and the CTA have won.

AB5 may be wreaking havoc on a lot of industries that hire independent contractors but the trucking industry — so far — has been spared. Bob joins host John Kingston on the “Drilling Deep” podcast to discuss the battle in court and what lies ahead for the classification of independent drivers.

John also talks about the continuing collapse in the price of diesel fuel. It’s a great thing for the industry … or is it? He’ll offer some perspective.

“Drilling Deep” is one of the FreightCasts family of podcasts from FreightWaves.


John Kingston

John has an almost 40-year career covering commodities, most of the time at S&P Global Platts. He created the Dated Brent benchmark, now the world’s most important crude oil marker. He was Director of Oil, Director of News, the editor in chief of Platts Oilgram News and the “talking head” for Platts on numerous media outlets, including CNBC, Fox Business and Canada’s BNN. He covered metals before joining Platts and then spent a year running Platts’ metals business as well. He was awarded the International Association of Energy Economics Award for Excellence in Written Journalism in 2015. In 2010, he won two Corporate Achievement Awards from McGraw-Hill, an extremely rare accomplishment, one for steering coverage of the BP Deepwater Horizon disaster and the other for the launch of a public affairs television show, Platts Energy Week.