In a 90-minute online listening session Wednesday to have Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) leaders hear views about possible changes in current broker transparency regulations, one question regarding a possible rule change with potentially serious repercussions came up repeatedly: what about the shippers?
At issue are the major requests of the two petitioners to FMCSA, owned-operator trade group OOIDA and the Small Business in Transportation Coalition led by James Lamb. There is no proposed rule. But if FMCSA adopted what OOIDA and SBTC want, brokers would be required to automatically send to carriers documentation of the details of a transaction electronically, and to do it quickly.
FMCSA is seeking comments on a list of questions it released in August in response to the OOIDA and SBTC petitions. The listening session was part of the agency’s gathering of information.
Carriers can get information on transactions now under federal law but may need to physically show up at a broker’s office to do so — an effective impossibility.
In a session where several impacts of such a rule were discussed at length, the focus on shipper confidentiality requirements came up several times.
Larry Minor, FMCSA’s associate administrator for policy, asked a question of the listeners and commenters on the session: Given confidentiality agreements in the contracts between brokers and shippers, “are you as brokers in a situation where the contracts you have with shippers state you couldn’t provide information even if you wanted to?”
Jeff Tucker, the CEO of 3PL Tucker Worldwide, said during the comment period that shippers do not want information on what they are getting charged for shipping to “get down to the carrier level, because shippers don’t want their competitors to know what they’re paying for freight.”
A commenter named Justin Olsen said shippers “consistently” require nondisclosure agreements with brokers, and “brokers are bound to honor these requirements and are contractually bound to honor the requirement of nondisclosure.” Olsen said he also believed that the regulations under Section 371.3 of Title 49, which spells out the requirements for broker disclosure now, might be in conflict with other federal laws regarding disclosure.
As one commenter said, the information about what the broker is charging the shipper and other pieces of financial information are “none of the carrier’s business.” If the carriers don’t like it, “they can source their own shippers if they choose.”
But existing law effectively makes it their business, though with a lot of hurdles to get it done. What is at issue is the method of transmission of the information to carriers. The ability of the broker to get that information now, regardless of how difficult it might be, has essentially established that carriers have a right to see it.
The question of the confidentiality agreements could be moot if FMCSA does implement changes and bars such confidentiality agreements between shipper and broker. Instead, a confidentiality clause among all three parties could become part of the new rule, said Lamb, president of the SBTC. “Are you saying carriers can’t keep a secret?” Lamb added.
In the model contract for broker-carrier relationships, confidentiality is required, and he objected to accusations that carriers would “routinely breach this.”
Todd Spencer, the president of OOIDA, responding to Minor’s query, said shippers’ concerns about confidentiality could be “fully satisfied” with nondisclosure and noncompete clauses in broker-carrier contracts.
One of the questions FMCSA has published is what brokers would need to spend to comply: “How much profit reduction on a per-transaction basis would brokers experience, and what percentage of the costs would be passed through to shippers or motor carriers?”
Jason Craig, the director of government affairs at C.H. Robinson, said the cost would be significant and a challenge to calculate accurately. OOIDA and SBTC have not anticipated a “corresponding increase in costs solely in delays to payments the requested remedy will require, due to information required in 371.3a5 for rate accounting of non-brokerage services like fees and detention time.”
Craig said the current law harkens back to a time when carriers often paid a commission to a broker, so that the underlying amount of the load would need to be known for a fair accounting.
But Craig and other commenters noted that is no longer how the market works, and there’s plenty of rate transparency. Tucker said there is “incredible” transparency in the market, and rate information is available down to the granular level of a particular lane.
But he noted rates are also subject to Bell curve-type distributions. And it is at the tail end of those rates that spurred the actions by OOIDA and SBTC, when the historically low rates of April, in the middle of the pandemic, kicked off the protests that led to the groups’ respective petitions.
Chris Burroughs, the vice president of governmental operations at 3PL trade association Transportation Intermediates Association, questioned the need for a radical overhaul brought on by a temporary situation. “If this was a systematic problem, why were there no complaints before COVID-19?” he said.
But the other side of the argument is what one carrier said was the disadvantage that fleets would always face. “When we do not know what the shipper pays the broker, then we do not know how to negotiate the rate and we end up grossly shorted,” the carrier said. And it isn’t just the carrier side of the ledger, she said. “Shippers are grossly overcharged.”
The other complaint, which has spurred part of the petitioners’ requests, is that asking to see the data that is now guaranteed in the law brings negative consequences for carriers. “The brokers are bullies if you ask too many questions,” the unidentified carrier said. “You will be blackballed and put on a ‘do not use’ list.”
The docket for taking comments on the FMCSA questions is open through Nov. 18.
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Sidney
Ok so the shipper has the load, the broker has the carriers, the carrier has the driver and equipment. Why is it the one who actually carries the load, is not part of the negotiation process.
Carlos Moreno
Chrobinson coyote and all other brokers
Ar stilling driver profits
By paying cheep rates and not paying a single penny
For detention
FMCSA have to change the laws on brokers and make them
Pay watt they supost to pay
And if they dont want to pay shot them off
And make shipers pay for all wasted time
Is time to do something lets do it drivers
LETS DO IT. OEIDA press harder
Manjot Sidhu
Surely government is well aware about the profit brokers make and very less O/Os make after all the expenses. Either government straighten thing up now so we can keep O/O industry alive or it’s a stage drama to feed mega corporations.
Randall Whitehouse
These brokers are just making excuses. If they have nothing to hide then why do they insist on not disclosing the information. This whole non disclosure crap is a bunch of crap. The shippers don’t care about that. They are paying what they are paying. It’s all about what these brokers can get away with paying. C H Robinson is one of the worst brokers in the industry. If the FMCSA won’t change the laws then leave those brokers stuck with the cheap loads.
JJM
Modern Brokerages should be eliminated to the point that Freight is added to a Trucker Specific Loadboard online, a internal broker of Company XYZ who can be verified using a specific “Company Code” can call ask for pricing and booking info etc. or Shippers can use a online shipping tool where specific carriers have access to their load info. A Shipper can Create a Group, in this Group they can add Carrier’s and only those Carrier’s that they work with can see the info etc.
Pricing can be instantly included and broker’s are eliminated. Or the pricing is set low and the shipper can demand a direct contact to confirm rates etc.
Ken
Shippers then would need to be updated on your ETA unless you’re okay with a unified GPS service.
Norbert Dounseroux
I have a question kinda related but I t made me think of it. Why must drivers show their drivers license to pick up or gain entry to a facility? I know it sounds simple but I’ve noticed many times they make a copy and whos to say that person isn’t selling the info? Theres been a time when I’ve shown my twice or military I’d and wasn’t questioned but it made me wonder.
DCM
Call me simple minded, if your bottom line is XYZ, the ABC of what the broker was paid is irrelevant. I’m a small carrier, and I could honestly care less what a broker is paid, I know what my bottom line is, so what a broker is paid is irrelevant to me, if I don’t like their rate, and they can’t meet me at mine I’ll just simply pass. I have direct shipping customers and I also use brokers, this whole transparency argument as always came across as desperate to me, do you ask your local retailer what there wholesale price was, that’s the way I’ve always equated this argument. Know what rates make you profitable, ar the end of the day brokers are in this for the same reason you are to make a profit.
JJM
Sure we’re all on it to make a profit. But if a trucker has to nearly break even or makes less than 5% profit while a broker makes a 2000% profit it becomes unfair and malpractice.
KEM
In a free market you have free will to make business decisions.
Sounds like you should sell your truck and become a Broker
Stephen Hardridge
Just take brokers out of the freight business. There presence in the freight business is outdated. These people speaking on our behalf need to stop asking, and start demanding.
Bernal Terran Chamberlain sr
The government has to step in because the Brokers are such thieves every single one of them nothing but a bunch of Thieves and Liars